[PATCH 0 of 2] add the template keyword 'children'

[Mads Kiilerich]

  Martin Geisler wrote, On 07/22/2010 10:24 PM:
> Yes, there were a couple of things... but nothing that I haven't seen
> before :-)
>
> Firstly, ...

Have you considered putting this on the wiki instead ;-) Actually, I 
guess it already is in the mess on the wiki...


Martin Geisler wrote, On 07/22/2010 10:50 PM:
> David Champion<dgc at uchicago.edu>  writes
>> * On 22 Jul 2010, Martin Geisler wrote:
>>> Firstly, you cheated and used Apple Mail to send the patches instead
>>> of using the patchbomb extension. We see this a lot from Mac users --
>>> maybe it's extra hard to configure patchbomb on that platform?
>> I'll hazard a guess: OSX doesn't ship with a local smtp listener
>> enabled.  (Postfix is present but not configured or set up to run on
>> boot.)  Since patchbomb relies on smtp, and smtp defaults to localhost,
>> you have to take extra steps on OSX either to configure postfix or to
>> configure your hgrc with your upstream smtp relay.  Same situation as
>> for Windows, pretty much, except that there is a postfix installed if
>> you know how to enable it.
> Yeah, that sounds like a good explanation. I wonder if we could teach
> patchbomb to get the SMTP settings out of Mac OS X and then just use
> those automatically...

Back in the "good" old days all (unix/linux) systems had a running 
system smtp service. Like it or not, that is no longer necessarily true, 
especially on desktop systems. SMTP is moving towards being a personal 
and authenticated thing. I'm sure linux distributions will stop shipping 
a smtp server in their default desktop setup within one year.

I don't think trying to detect SMTP settings would be of much help. I 
guess that most users will use webmail or connect to a remote 
imap/pop3/smtp server anyway. Improved support for keyring or 
http://mercurial.selenic.com/bts/issue2141 could perhaps help more. A 
default configuration for gmail (and others?) could perhaps also help. 
And perhaps also a configuration for connecting (unauthenticated) 
directly to waste.org?

/Mads