WikiStyleGuide

Masklinn masklinn at masklinn.net
Fri Oct 15 06:29:54 CDT 2010


On 2010-10-14, at 22:09 , Adrian Buehlmann wrote:
> On 14.10.2010 20:46, Matt Mackall wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 20:11 +0200, Adrian Buehlmann wrote:
>>> On 14.10.2010 19:41, Matt Mackall wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 00:39 +0200, Adrian Buehlmann wrote:
>>>>> Matt has created a new wiki page
>>>>> 
>>>>>  http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/WikiStyleGuide
>>>>> 
>>>>> which mandates to use book capitalization for page and section titles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wikipedia capitalizes only the first character on page and section
>>>>> titles (e.g. [1], see also [2]).
>>>> 
>>>> I ACKed this suggestion on IRC yesterday. I presume you know where to
>>>> find the edit button.
>>> I'm certainly not going to interfere with you on that page. So no, I
>>> won't edit that page.
>> Huh. That's a rather un-wiki attitude.
> No it isn't. The Mercurial wiki is special, in the sense that you are
> the project lead.
> 
> If a project lead creates a WikiStyleGuide, then that's certainly not a
> normal wiki page.
But the project lead is specifically telling you (and according to him already said it previously) that you're free to update the style guide if you feel the current one is incorrect, so what's the issue?

In essence, from what I understand (and I may very well have missed a lot of stuff given I wasn't party to the original discussion), Matt created a WikiStyleGuide page because there was none, you're disagreeing with what's in it and refuse to edit it when he tells you to fix it to match what you think it should be. What gives?

>>> When I told you on IRC that I'll edit the wiki like Wikipedia style,
>>> *you* told me on IRC that, no, you want edits to comply with that page.
>> Here's what was said:
>> 
>> (16:03:04) abuehl: 
>> I will use Wikipedia style in my edits
>> (16:04:04) mpm: 
>> Uh, no. Either update the style guide and conform to it, or don't.
> Great. Leaving away some context to prove a point.
Maybe you would care to provide that context for those of us who weren't there and only get information via the list, if you believe Matt unfairly represents your position?

>> And I meant it. The style guide is not written in stone and you are
>> welcome to improve it, especially while it's still just a proposal and
>> not widely implemented. In fact, I've given you explicit permission to
>> edit it on precisely the point you've brought up here.
>> 
>> But you are NOT welcome to ignore the style guide because you don't like
>> it. That obviously defeats the whole purpose of the exercise, not to
>> mention being rude.
> Unfounded accusations like this aren't helpful, Matt.
I must have missed the unfounded accusation in Matt's mail.

He quite clearly explained what he found/would find rude (namely ignoring the style guide rather than fixing it), but that's not even an accusation, that's a judgement.

> Most interestingly, the edits I've done *before* you put up the guide
> already mostly conformed to it (considering the ACKed part).
> 
> So what's the point?
Only you can answer this question, you're the one who started this thread to complain about the WikiStyleGuide page Matt told you you were free to edit.


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