Roundup -> Trac

Nicolas Dumazet nicdumz at
Mon Mar 14 18:11:15 CDT 2011

2011/3/14 Matt Mackall <mpm at>:
> On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 09:35 +0100, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 02:21, Matt Mackall <mpm at> wrote:
>> > I can't say I got excited about Trac. Both Trac and Roundup seem
>> > similarly underpowered to me. I might change my mind if I spent a few
>> > more hours with it though.
>> Well, I have a long history with Trac, and find it easy to maintain
>> (with painless upgrades). It's also fairly easy to extend using their
>> plugin model.
>> Is there a list of Matt's Ten Things Bug Trackers Should Do yet?
> How about five?
> - Painless upgrades
> - Seamless mail gateway
> - Reliable search
> - Bulk operations on issues
> - Doesn't send an endless stream of tracebacks via email
> Though if it really does get upgrades right, that in itself may be
> enough to switch. As an admin, the last thing I want is a package that
> thinks it's so much more important than every other package that it
> deserves manual attention at upgrade time. Roundup and Moin are serial
> offenders.

Does it need to be Free (libre)?
I've had reasonably good experiences (within the Wikimedia
infrastructure) with JIRA: to date that is the less painful tracker
I've ever used. Atlassian is giving out free (as in beer) licenses to
OSS projects.

(note that I have no problem with the underperformance of BTS: I've
learned to be bugtracker-frustrated; and to me BTS is just as bad as
any other...)

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