Things we ought to do to improve our packaging

Nikolaj Sjujsckij sterkrig at
Wed Aug 21 05:30:16 CDT 2013

On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:19:34 +0400, Matt Mackall <mpm at>

> On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 23:17 +0400, Nikolaj Sjujskij wrote:
>> Den 2013-08-19 02:29:49 skrev Matt Mackall <mpm at>:
>>> On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 16:44 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Matt Mackall <mpm at> wrote:
>>>>> I don't know, but I suspect there is. How does one grab the
>> equivalent
>>>>> of a nightly on Gentoo? How long do I have to wait to install 2.7 if
>>>> the
>>>> > packager is on vacation? Is there stuff that requires manual
>>>> > intervention from release to release like adding new files?
>>>> As Nikolaj mentioned, you can trivially build packages from your
>>>> public repo's tip. There are two packagers, so you might have to wait
>>>> a little bit, but it's only a filename move away (in an overlay) if
>>>> you want it badly (e.g. no actual building). No intervention is
>>>> generally required for version bumps.
>>> Ok, so it's fairly painless. Let's flip the question around: is there
>>> any reason we should NOT be doing automated nightly Gentoo builds to
>>> spot problems, given how easy it is?
>>   What for?
> Because automatic builds are a bog-standard quality assurance mechanism
> that I shouldn't even have to explain. Yes, Gentoo is very shiny and
> apparently makes this especially easy... so why oh why are you
> resisting?
   Hm. I may have misunderstood you. I've got nothing against
Mercurial on Gentoo. I thought you were talking about _distributing_
autobuilds, for Gentoo users to actually, well, use them. If we, say,
build every revision, install it and check list of installed files,
mailing changes in this list (or something like this), that's by me.
Useful, too.

  Nikolaj Sjujskij

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