'Othertools' page in a shockingly bad state

Angel Ezquerra ezquerra at gmail.com
Mon Mar 18 15:08:40 CDT 2013


On Mar 18, 2013 8:50 PM, "Angel Ezquerra" <ezquerra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2013 8:09 PM, "Kevin Bullock" <kbullock+mercurial at ringworld.org>
wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 18, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Christopher Jefferson wrote:
> >
> > > I am a beginner mercurial user. Just today, I googled for 'mercurial
gui'. The first link is: mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/OtherTools . Looks
good. Let's have a look through the first few options?
> > >
> > > TortoiseHg - seems fine, but for some reason I can't get it to run on
my machine (but this is a seperate issue).
> > >
> > > but, now things go bad quickly:
> > >
> > > HgkExtension - Oh, included by default with Mercurial. That must mean
it's good? I'll just use that. Except when I click on it, I'm told it is an
'unloved feature', and only kept for backwards compatability.
> > >
> > > Push Me Pull You - never released, not updated since 2008
> > > gpyfm - Webpage gone, wiki page tells me it has "unresolved bugs and
has been shelved"
> > > meld - good diffing tool I've used before
> > > Diffuse - released version old, but might be under active development.
> > > hgdiff- not updated in about a year, couldn't get to work
> > > hgct - tells me it hasn't been updated since 2007 on this very web
page!
> > >
> > > Seeing as this page is the first thing that comes up when searching
for mercurial guis, I would suggest (as a user) this is a very important
page, particularly as users looking for guis might want some hand-holding.
> > >
> > > I would personally recommend a complete-blank approach, and listing
just 2 or 3 (at most!) GUIs, which users can trust. Having a separately
linked page with a list of all GUIs could be a good idea too, but having a
dump of broken and unmaintained software I do not feel does mercurial any
good.
> > >
> > > I might have tried to tidy up the page myself, but this page
(sensibly I suspect) is immutable. This might however also be what has let
it get into such a bad state.
> > >
> > > I hope this does not come across as too insulting, I really like
mercurial, I think it is a shame the first page many people find when
looking for a GUI is so confusing.
> >
> > Thanks for bringing it up. I've just done a bit of an overhaul on the
GUI Tools section -- see what you think.
> >
> > pacem in terris / мир / शान्ति / ‎‫سَلاَم‬ / 平和
> > Kevin R. Bullock
>
> Kevin, I believe that hgview now ruins on Windows as well (I'm on my
phone, so I cannot edit the page myself).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Angel

It has been pointed out to me that I wrote "ruins" where I meant "runs". I
don't think hgview ruins windows of course ! :-)

Angel
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