Discussion about Mercurial 4.8 Sprint

Sean Farley sean at farley.io
Fri Jul 13 23:40:19 EDT 2018


Augie Fackler <raf at durin42.com> writes:

>> On Jul 13, 2018, at 09:29, Martin von Zweigbergk via Mercurial-devel <mercurial-devel at mercurial-scm.org> wrote:
>>
>> We took people's voices into account. That's why we choose Europe over Asia (it felt like people on the committee generally preferred Tokyo). But again, I agree that we should have been more transparent.
>
> Yep, sorry about the lack of transparency. I think we all burned out on the "all the voices" thread and just decided to decide.

I am sorry you and other from the committee feel burned out. I was
hoping the response I received would be warm and engaging, and not
dismissive or imply that my offer to help was just another complaint. I
am saddened by this response from you / the committee. I would have
liked to thought it was an interesting thread that got more community
members involved that otherwise wouldn't.

In the beginning of this thread you said, "so far I'm seeing complaints
without alternatives" ... ok, so I asked people to help out and start
looking for venues. But it doesn't seem that was enough?

The last few emails from you and Martin have read to me as you both feel
there is nothing to be done. It's very confusing to get a message of
urgency and such a finalized stance from you / the committee yet we have
three months until the next proposed sprint.

I don't see it as irreparable, though. I think the committee could (and
should) go out of their way to repair these strained relations. We have
three months. Why not engage with and coordinate with the people that
have volunteered? Nothing is tying us to host in Stockholm. Now is the
chance to really show that there are people here who are willing to help
the community.

Unfortunately, the message I'm getting is to not bother, though I'd love
to be proven wrong.

> (One other thing that came up, by way of transparency: we'd like to try and plan the spring 2019 sprint somewhat soon, with an eye towards pulling off the Asia-based sprint we've talked about for something like 3 years. I think it'd be nice to get Asia into the rotation, as we might see some new faces.)

I wish you luck. My attempts to engage people and get them involved in
the community were unsuccessful and have depleted me of volunteering
energy. For now, I'll take the weekend off and contemplate on how I can
help the community in other ways.
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